dobra... ja juz wyczailem cos sobie
otoz wyjasnie Wam z czym mialem problem
szukam taniej oferty zakupu laptopa (najlepiej 2) w UK. interesuje mnie dokladnie model Acer Ferrari 3200
na Amazon.co.uk wyczailem kolesia, ktory chcial sprzedac 2 sztuki, wiec sie do niego zglosilem. wystawil jeden za 300Ł a drugi za 500Ł.
oba z 3-letnia gwarancja i Windows XP Pro
koles nie wydawal sie podejrzany ani cena (czesto mozna spotkac podobne), a poza tym mial 7 pozytywnych komentarzy.
Zglosilem sie do niego i zapytalem czy jest mozliwosc zeby przyslal mi je do Polski albo Irlandii (bo mam tam kogos, kto moze odebrac). Facet odpowiedzial ze jak chce kupic, mam mu po prostu podac adres na ktory ma je wyslac, po czym on skontaktuje sie z Amazon'em, ktory przysle mi cos co sie mialo nazywac Invoice mail.
zacytuje Wam co on mi napisal:
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I have recently opened a computers store in Germany but now I am having some problems with the rent and I am forced to close it temporarily. So I have to liquidate everything.Unfortunatelly for me and fortunately for the buyers the prices are much lower than originally.I am willing to sell one to you for 300 GBP including shipping taxes.THe item is brand new never opened, it comes with original pappers and 3 years international warranty. If you want to complete the deal with me and to be both of us secure you can pay me through Amazon Secure Payment using this payment service we will be both of us secure. If you agree please tell me your shipping address and i will contact Amazon,and they will send you an Invoice via e-mail telling what to do next...
We cannot regulary process, of add to cart because I ship from GERMANY, not from UK |
ja sie nie znam na tym na tyle dokladnie, ale stwierdzilem, na razie jest ok, podalem swoj adres. umowilem sie na 2 sztuki za w sumie 600Ł
jego odpowiedz po przeslaniu mu moich danych:
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| I have forwarded your informations to them and they will shortly contact you regarding the payment.After that please e-mail me with your final decision. |
po czym przyszedl mail z adresu
support@secure-amazon-payments.com o tresci:
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**Important Email - Please Read Carefully**
Dear Amazon Member recently contacted by (Cataldo Andrea) regarding a transaction.
Congratulation Amazon Transaction Started
Current status: Payment pending
Dear Amazon Community Member,
After verifying the trustworthiness of the seller and the availability
of the merchandise for immediate shipping, we have approved your buy it
now transaction and offered you, as the buyer, full purchase protection
for the amount you agreed on with the seller.
Complete your Amazon transaction in 5 easy steps:
Buyer and seller agree on the transaction terms and a selling price.
Seller contacts Amazon with the transaction details;
Amazon accepts the transaction and offers purchase protection to the
buyer (if the transaction is declined, no further action is required
from either the buyer or the seller);
The buyer sends payment and the seller receives it. After the payment
cleared, the seller must notify Amazon. Buyer will send the payment
details directly to the seller email address. The seller has three
business days to send the buyer and Amazon the tracking number of the
shipment. If no tracking number is provided, a full refund is
immediately sent to the buyer.
Details and instructions of this transaction:
*************************************************
The following item(s) are protected in this Amazon transaction:
"Acer Ferrari 3200 - Mobile Athlon 64 2800+ - RAM 512 MB - HD 80 GB - DVD±RW / DVD-RAM -
Bluetooth, 802.11b, 802.11g - Win XP Pro - 15" TFT 2 pieces''
Seller 's verified payment address:
TUTAJ ADRES SPRZEDAWCY
W NIEMCZECH
Buyer's shipping address:
TUTAJ MOJ ADRES
Date of verification: 02/03/2005
Amount insured: GBPŁ 600.00
Payment must be sent by: Western Union Money Transfer
Next step to be taken: The buyer must send the payment to the
seller baniicucoala@yahoo.com
Payment instructions:
*******************************************************
To submit the payment with Western Union Money Transfer, you have 2
options:
1. Pay for the transfer with cash at a local Western Union agent.
Click here to locate the agents in your area
http://www.westernunion.com/info/agentInquiryIntl.asp.
2. If you now are in the USA and need to use a credit/debit card
(Visa or MC), call 1-800-CALL-CASH and make the payment to the verified name of the seller. An
additional fee will be charged on most cards because
this transaction will be considered a cash advance on your card.
Western Union Money Transfer is the only service that has ultimate
authentication of the identity of the receiver of funds. Several IDs
and utility bills are required before the funds are paid . Therefore, no
one else but your seller can pick up the money. Your payments cannot be
lost in the mail, like money orders or checks.
However, Western Union Money Transfer is designed mainly for sending
cash to friends and family in need, so telling them you are sending the
money to an Amazon seller will prevent your money transfer to go through
and you will be unable to complete this transaction.
Once the payment was sent, email the seller the following information:
1) 10 digit MTCN (Money transfer control number):
2) Exact sender's name on file with Western Union:
3) Your street address on file with Western Union:
4) City and country where you sent the money from:
5) Amount sent:
Then wait for the confirmation the payment was received. W ithin 3
business days, you will receive the tracking number for your
merchandise.
Purchase protection and refund:
*****************************************************
Purchase protection and refund:
************************************
Currently, this seller has a US$ 10,000.00 deposit in an Amazon managed purchase protection
account. Transactions with this eBay seller are covered by purchase protection against fraud and
description errors. For your safety, this account was locked today, for 30 days time. The seller
is unable to withdraw any money from it, within this period.
Should you need a refund for this transaction, the insured amount will be taken from the
seller's purchase protection account and sent to you. The refund is sent to your bank account, or
by check or money order. The way you are refunded is at your choice. You have 30 days from the
above verification date to request a refund. Refund requests are processed within 3 days.
The insurer of this transaction is Amazon Inc., located at 2145 Hamilton Avenue, San Jose, CA
95125, United States of America
Important Usage Guidelines:
****************************************************
1. The contact information should only be used for resolving matters related to Amazon. Any
other use is strictly prohibited.
2. This transaction is protected by Amazon services such as insurance,
feedback and dispute resolution.
3. You may buy and sell with confidence in all transactions with this
Amazon member.
4. If you need to dispute this transaction, keep the transaction number
at hand when contacting Amazon. Any complaints must be filed within 30
days from the verification date.
This e-mail message was sent to you from Amazon SafeHarbor team, with
the full support of the SquareTrade center.
The seller was informed about this transaction being started and is
awaiting your payment. It is recommended to send the payment as soon
as possible, because your purchase protection is valid for 30 days only.
DISCLAIMER: Do not pay with a cash transfer for a transaction Amazon
never insured. Never use Western Union Money Transfer or Money Gram
to pay a seller which credibility and payment address was not verified
by us. You are most likely to lose your money and never receive the
merchandise you paid for. If a seller requires cash transfer and you
do not have this kind of purchase protection, please do not participate.
If you encounter any problems with this transaction, please contact us.
When contacting our support team, use the reply feature so that all
previous correspondences are included in your email. Otherwise, we
will not be able to process your request.
****************** CONDITIONS TO BE MET BEFORE YOU MAY ASK FOR A
REFUND *******************************************
Here are the situations suitable for a refund request:
1) If the item doesn't arrive and/or the seller stops communications
after the payment was received;
2) If the merchandise you receive has different specifications than the
ones you agreed on;
3) If your merchandise arrives in a much longer period than the one
you agreed on (more than 15 days from the payment clearance day);
For cases 2) and 3) you have to send back the merchandise to the seller
prior to ask for your refund. If you did not pay the seller by the
required payment method, your refund request would be declined.
To ask for a refund, simply reply to this notification and enter in the subject line:
Refund request for Amazon "Acer Ferrari 3200 - Mobile Athlon 64 2800+ - RAM 512 MB - HD 80 GB -
DVD±RW / DVD-RAM - Bluetooth, 802.11b, 802.11g - Win XP Pro - 15" TFT 2 pieces''(Cataldo Andrea)
Account Protection
Protect your Amazon account - Amazon will not ask you for sensitive
personal information (such as your password, credit card, bank
account numbers, etc.) in an email.
Thank you for using Amazon
http://www.Amazon.com/
This Amazon notice was sent to you based on your Amazon account
preferences because one of our Power Sellers (Cataldo Andrea)required us to send you a
confirmation in his behalf. If you would like to review your
notification preferences for other types of communications. |
po otrzymaniu tego maila umowilem sie wstepnie na wplate po niedzieli, ale...
no wlasnie... ale... zastanowil mnie adres z jakiego przyszedl mail:
Amazon Customer Support <support@secure-amazon-payments.com>
kurcze... ta domena cos mi nie pasuje stwierdzilem, po czym na Whois wyczailem ze ta domena jest zarejestrowana na osobe prywatna, podczas gdy wszystkie wczesniejsze zakupy przez Amazon.co.uk dochodzily do mnie z adresu @amazon.com albo @amazon.co.uk ktore to sa zarejestrowane na firme Amazon.
no to podejrzalem naglowki maila i okazalo sie ze mail z rzekomego Amazona przyszedl z serwerow hotmail.com.
ponizej zalaczam naglowek tej wiadomosci:
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w zwiazku z watpliwosciami napisalem do Amazon.co.uk o tym zdarzeniu (dzis rano napisalem), ale jeszcze nic nie odpisali. ale w glowie powstala mi pewna ukladanka:
1. koles podpisuje sie angielskim nazwiskiem (Norman Smith) ale mam pewne watpliwosci co do jego "brytyjskosci"
2. dlaczego w jego depozycie w Amazonie kasa jest podana w $$ a nie w Ł (GBP) skoro jest zarejestrowany na angielskim? no i nie ukrywajmy sporo tej kasy by tam mial.
3. ten adres mailowy, ten wlasciciel domeny jak i naglowek maila
jako ze jestem na 100% pewien ze koles mnie chce wy%&ujac, zastanawiam sie co zrobic...
nie chcialbym tego zostawic, w sensie chcialbym sie albo z nim umowic na ewentualny odbior osobisty w Niemczech (mialbym kogo wyslac), albo doniesc na niego do Amazon'a, albo w jakis sposob go wkurwic...
jesli macie jakies wlasne wnioski, to chetnie sie dowiem co o tym myslicie.
2005-03-05, 12:39 kupowanie w Amazonie
Chcialbym sie dowiedziec jak najwiecej szczegowlow na temat kupna za granica ? Czy ktos ma jakies dosiwdczenie ?
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