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Post2002-05-14, 14:33      GP Austrii Odpowiedz z cytatem
no i wsio jasne

TEAM ORDER jest dozwolone w Formule 1

jest natomiast cos takiego :

If in the opinion of the Formula One Commission a competitor fails to operate his team in a manner compatible with the standards of the Championship or in any way brings the Championship into disrepute, the FIA may exclude such competitor from the Championship forthwith.


i bedzie ta zasada mogla byc odniesiona raczej do tego co sie dzialo na podium. Znamienne jest zreszta to ze FIA wezwala ferrari , Schumiego i Rubensa w celu zlozenia wyjasnien dotyczacych zamiany miejsc na podium.


a teraz co do skuchy o ktorej PiotreQ mowi to przytocze taki cytat :

I'd be interested to learn why Rubens didn't let Michael past on the spectatorless section before the Rindt curve and why he left it till a hundred metres before the line to let Michael slip past. Either Rubens wanted it to be known that he was moving over, or the team didn't expect the backlash that was about to hit them. That's one race debrief I'd really like to listen in to.


wiec nie tylko ja mam watpliwosci co to tego dlaczego Bari zrobil TO tak pozno

A tutaj macie probke team order w historii :

"I myself, when I was (Ferrari) sporting director in 1975, imposed team orders on our drivers," Montezemolo recalled.

"In Monaco, I told Regazzoni to let Lauda past, as he was quicker and could win the race.

"In subsequent years, on several occasions we asked our drivers to act for the good of the team.

"I am thinking of Hockenheim and Sepang in 1999, when Irvine picked up two wins which kept him in contention for the world championship thanks to the collaboration first of Mika Salo and then of Michael Schumacher.'

Montezemolo said that looking further back in Scuderia history, it was clear that the Italian team had always put the interests of the team above those of the individual.

Going back to the Fifties, he said, there was the 1956 Italian Grand Prix, when Peter Collins handed over his car to Juan Manuel Fangio, which meant the Argentine could finish second and take the title.

Then, in Morocco two years later, Phil Hill was lying second and slowed to let by Mike Hawthorn who thus got ahead of Stirling Moss in the classification that year.

The second place that gave John Surtees's the 1964 title also owed something to team orders, when in Mexico City, the men on the pit wall asked Lorenzo Bandini to slow down and let the Englishman finish ahead of him

"On top of that," Montezemolo continued, "it does not seem to me that other teams have behaved differently in the past.

One only has to recall the 1998 Australian Grand Prix when Coulthard let Hakkinen pass, not to mention Jerez in 1997, when what happened was an agreement between two teams, Williams and McLaren to let the Finn take his first grand prix win.
 
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Post2002-05-14, 14:54      GP Austrii Odpowiedz z cytatem
I co w tym wszystkim sa winni kierowcy?? To ze sluchaja szefa teamu , że przestrzegaja kontraktów... ???

Ale my kibice zawsze mozemy zaprotestować, tylko czy to coś da ?
 
Richie


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Post2002-05-14, 15:17      GP Austrii Odpowiedz z cytatem
Cytat:
tylko czy to coś da ?


oczywiscie ze nie
 
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Post2002-05-15, 18:40      GP Austrii Odpowiedz z cytatem
 
Richie


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Post2002-05-15, 19:22      GP Austrii Odpowiedz z cytatem
no i co? przyjmujemy ze ci co mowili opinie identyczne z nim znaja sie na F1 a ci co mowili cos odwrotnego nie?
 
Nogal


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Post2002-05-15, 21:35      GP Austrii Odpowiedz z cytatem
nie - to tylko taka ciekawostka
 
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Post2002-05-16, 16:30      GP Austrii Odpowiedz z cytatem
Richie -
 
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